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Post by Ptarmigan on May 17, 2008 15:49:54 GMT
The musicians who play in the North Antrim group ~ Scad the Beggars play regularly in the Smuggler's Inn on Saturday nights, as well as performing at various concerts & functions around the north coast. Rather than restrict their repertoire to a narrow field, they play a nice mix of Irish, Scottish & English traditional music & song, which they feel best reflects the wide variety of music that local traditional musicians would have always favoured. To learn more about this group {who incidentally all live in North Antrim} their instruments & their music, check out their web page at: Scad the BeggarsCheers Ptarmigan
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Post by sarach on Jun 7, 2008 23:21:01 GMT
Aha! I spy a new line-up of Scad the Beggars - one of my favourite chameleon bands! I recently found some bits of video footage from the last time you were over (and possibly something from the time before with Greg?) Got the fife and dulcimer set, the dancing, ensemble, fiddle and flute and even a brief clip of the massed ranks joining in with The Sarachs on Dawning of the Day. Sound quality is quite good but some of the clips are quite short in an attempt to maximise battery life
If you are happy for me to do so, and you can bear with me for a while I could put some bits up on YouTube. (Our Camcorder is a bit idiosyncratic so it's not entirely straight forward.....)
Do you have a tune you could put up for the Scad the Beggars song ?
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Post by Ptarmigan on Jun 8, 2008 0:01:31 GMT
Sure Les, by all means - tear away. I must admit, the clip I'd really like to see is the one of: "the massed ranks joining in with The Sarachs on Dawning of the Day."As for the tune to that song, I'm sorry, but it's so long since Charlie Gillen wrote that, I've completely forgotten the air I put to it. Cheers Ptarmigan
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Post by emdee on Jun 8, 2008 1:41:17 GMT
Is this the same "Dawning of the Day " that was recorded by John McCormack way back in the days of the 78s?
If that is the case, I have heard a great revival of the tune on this side of the water, in the piping scene. I don't think they call it "Dawniing of the Day" but I willl find out what they call it.
If it has a different name could it be politics again? Ptarmigan?
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Post by Ptarmigan on Jun 8, 2008 8:51:04 GMT
Dawning of the DayIt's mostly played as a March over here & is usually one of the first tunes beginners learn to play. e.g. Dawning of the dayOr perhaps you'd prefer a reel CHEESY version: Dawning of the dayOf course, it sounds just grand played as a March on the Pipes, especially with the harmony line thrown in for good measure: Dawning of the dayHowever, you should know that for some folks this makes it a definite no-no in session circles, but for me a good tune is always a good tune & I have no problem playing this tune at a session. After all, there are no bad tunes, just bad players! However, it is of course, also the air to the well known song "Raglan Road" & anyone who saw & heard Luke Kelly sing this will know what someone can do with a so called "too easy" tune. "Raglan Road" ~ Luke Kelly
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Post by emdee on Jun 8, 2008 9:18:39 GMT
Raglan Road is the name I was looking for!
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Post by Ptarmigan on Jun 8, 2008 9:20:22 GMT
Les,
I just remembered ............. the tune I used for that Beggars song was the air to:
Wha Wadna Fight For Charlie
Cheers Ptarmigan
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Post by sarach on Jun 9, 2008 9:09:31 GMT
Thanks Dick - will print off the words and see if we can get it to work!
Re: Dawning of the Day, we played it as an insert towards the end of a Kintyre song called Kilchousland at the Dalriada Connections concert a few years back and various Beggars joined in at that point. It was of course the tune for Raglan Road, which is what we usually call it, but I thought that might be confusing on here when we didn't actually sing the song but played the air. Unfortunately, the clip is not of the whole performance but has the bit just before and after the Beggars came in.
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Post by Ptarmigan on Jun 9, 2008 10:18:59 GMT
Please feel free to take as much poetic license with this song as you like. After all, Charlie only wrote it as a wee poem, so I've no doubt it'll need some attention, to convert it to song. For example, you might like to add the word "It's" at the start of the last line of the chorus. You see, the truth is, we have never actually gotten round to singing it ourselves, but if you guys start singing it, then of course we'll just have to make a stab at it. Of course, that also means we'll have to start singing one of your songs, too ...... any suggestions? Cheers Ptarmigan
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Post by Ptarmigan on Jun 9, 2008 10:34:16 GMT
After a wee shufty through it, here's a few wee changes which might help to make it work better as a song.
Scad the Beggars
1 WE HANNAE GOT THE OAT MEAL, NOR HAE WE A FRYIN PAN, BUT WERE HERE TAE ENTERTAIN YE WI THE SCAD THE BEGGARS BAND.
CHORUS SCAD THE BEGGARS, MEALIE CRUSHIE, YE CAN CA’ IT WHAT YE CAN, OATEN MALE AN BACON CREESH, IT'S TASTY FRYIN IN THE PAN.
2 HOOCH, CLAP AN JOIN THE FUN , AN WATCH YER CARES A' FLEE AWA’, GIN YE AW WID KEN THE CHORUS , THEN YE AW CAN SING AWA’ .
3 WE’LL TAK YE BACK TAE GRANNY, WAE HER SKILLET ON THE CROOK, THE RECIPES O’ YISTERYEAR, THEY NIVIR LEEV’T WITHIN A BOOK.
4 SO, COME BACK IN TIME A DANNER , JOOST COME WAE US FOR A WHILE, TAE HEAR THE TUNES AN SANGS AN STORIES , THAT ARE SURE TAE YE BEGUILE.
5 SHUT YER EEN AN DRIFT AWA , FOR MEMORIES O’ TIMES LANG GAN , ON THE SHIP O' DREAMS COME SAILIN , WAE THE SCAD THE BEGGARS BAND.
by Charlie Gillen
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